QUESTION MEME TIME
Feb. 17th, 2011 11:23 amThe way this game goes is you ask me a question about basically anything (usually RP, but hopes and dreams and favorite icecream flavors or preferred canons are fine too!) and then I ask you a question and then we go back and forth like that until we stop! It's usually pretty fun.
I play Sugata/Tide on Amethyst and Luke/Dawn on Ruby.
I play Sugata/Tide on Amethyst and Luke/Dawn on Ruby.
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Date: 2011-02-17 07:07 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-02-17 11:13 pm (UTC)Tide is, thus, conceeerned. He isn't really bothered by crazy! Or homicide! But the way Pride put it implies that he could be a danger to team and that is not down at all. It comes HILARIOUSLY at the same time Tide is thinking about things like leadership, because of what Misato said, Pride round-about acknowledging it, annnnd his own memory of Head inviting him to be their leader. So even though he doesn't really waaant to be leader exactly he's kind of thinking in himself in that capacity and AS LEADER has to make sure Pride does not crazyout and hurt anyone he shouldn't and it's like man this is balls!
He is aware that Pride is fucking with him to some extent, but he really doesn't know enough about him to tell how much of that is lulz and how much of it is crazy. And he isn't just, trusting enough, to go "I believe in you!" and assume Pride will never flip and murder them all.
So basically he is concerned, mostly because of possible eventual fallout. If he did NOT have to worry about Pride possibly murdering the wrong people, he wouldn't care, cuz it's not the crazy that bothers him it's the potential betrayal.
Souya's thoughts on his new memory!
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Date: 2011-02-17 11:50 pm (UTC)On the not so good, there's the knowledge that he'd KNOWN where Kaito was and had covered for him, and even though he wasn't expecting the consequences to get quite that bad, there's the nagging feeling that he could have prevented it somehow. He's going to be kind of uneasy because he doesn't know what happened after that, he can sort of figure out that the beating ended when the memory cuts out because he's relatively sure the King won't let his kid die, but he's more concerned about Taiki and Touma.
Once the impact wears off, Souya will stop and reconsider his attitude towards Personae and weight rebellion vs good behavior. So far he hasn't broken any rules (other than giving away that one lighter) and if he feels the overwhelming need to talk about his feelings, he'll probably talk to Guy about it.
HOW DO YOU THINK THE NEXT HORRIBLE MURDER GAME WILL GO FOR YOUR CHARACTERS?
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Date: 2011-02-18 12:01 am (UTC)I think that while Tide has probably thought the most about potential badness from murder games, he will still be the most traumatised by it. Oooonly not really, as much as ~changed~. Star Driver is a VERY HARMLESS CANON where no one is seriously injured and everything Sugata is upset about has to do with douche destinies but not with any real suffering. It's very legit stuff for a regular teenage boy to be upset about, but it isn't a pimple on the backside of mooooost people's backgrounds in Aather, and he just doesn't have that even subconscious level of 'this has happened before'.
HOWEVER. Tide is also not really the sort to be broken by things. Most likely upon seeing HIS PEOPLE in danger and/or hurt he will realize they are very important to him, and be more dere in the long run. He will also be more homicidal for them. YOU KNOW HOW, AFTER THE LAST ONE, CORAL WAS ALL REALLY NICE? Okay well if after Souya set up that THIS IS HOW WE DISTRIBUTE DAMAGE EVENLY, if Amethyst IS hurt badly, Sugata would prooooobably Pillar any offenders who came over to Amethyst acting sad and guilty 8D;
He will very much just probably be a lot more prone to protective homicide.
AS FOR LUKE. Uuh. Luke is less likely to be upset by injury now that he remembers fighting monsters and doing things like being shot with lightning or slammed into by stuff as big as he is. Tho not having a healer is kind of balls and he still doesn't LIKE it.
Luke is the type who is going to be upset by aaaannyone getting seriously hurt. And he will probably be majorly depressed after all danger games. FORTUNATELY, canon hands me how Luke deals with this, and he really just needs to remember that A) he is a killer by choice, or B) someone needs to lay down for him that it is us or them, in which case he will choose Us every time.
Souya's thoughts on Sugata FOR REAL now that we have threaded a million times and you haven't scored a single point.
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Date: 2011-02-18 12:20 am (UTC)BUT OKAY. He really likes Sugata and he acknowledges this in some level, he just really doesn't like liking him because he doesn't know how to deal with it. Souya can't related to Sugata the same way he relates to other people, he gets along by bullying and teasing and generally being insufferable, Sugata is IMMUNE TO THIS BEHAVIOR, so he feels really disarmed with him. I CAN'T DRAPE ON HIM AND POKE HIM UNTIL HE PUNCHES ME, IT DOESN'T WORK, so he copes by being grumpy, he doesn't do it consciously, it just happens and he is kind of annoyed at himself for it because he knows Sugata does absolutely nothing to merit it.
Objectively he knows Sugata is a great kid! He wants to help, he'll make a good team leader, but then he is so zen and he COULD TELL HE REALLY WANTED TO LICK HIS WRIST and it makes him feel vulnerable and it sucks. ANNOYING KID. So he is very tsundere. He is also a sucker so he'll probably keep poking him until he stops being tsun or Sugata reacts.
I WAS GONNA SAY SOMETHING ELSE. Something about pecking order and how Souya is ALSO ANNOYED by the awareness that he's not terribly upset by the idea of following Sugata's orders, and then he gets upset by not being upset, and really it all boils down to Sugata topping him and Souya not liking it.
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Date: 2011-02-18 12:35 am (UTC)SO BASICALLY that is why Sugata doesn't think of them as friends! Even tho he quite likes Souya, he figures it isn't mutual. He isn't especially bothered by this, that's just how it is. He is aware he has Souya's respect and probably even trust on some level and that is satisfactory for him.
I TOLD AJ SUGATA'S THOUGHTS ON SOUYA'S CHARADES which just sort of boils down to 'okay, do whatever makes you happy'. But at this point he also realizes trying to get reactions out of him is kind of a game, which Sugata is winning and intends to keep winning.
Souya is probaby Sugata's most important off team person, despite the obvs distance. He does like and respect him and would be willing to rely on him if the situation called for it. In a WAY the whole bloodgiving debacle was kind of a test to see if Souya would follow orders 8D; Whiiiiiich he will! Sugata won't particularly abuse this but he does like to know where he stands with people in that respect, particularly when he is considering using someone off team. On team is a little more personal and so knowing 'will he do what i tell him to' is less important.
Souya on his team, in general or specific.
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Date: 2011-02-17 11:24 pm (UTC)If we mean lol everyday Souya, he doesn't care. Tide is absolutely content to let people put on whatever mask they like and wear it as thoroughly as they like, much like he don't mind Pride getting fwippy gesture and smiling a lot even if it's unlikely he is suddenly ACTUALLY HAPPY, he doesn't care if Souya pretends he is mentally 14. He will not necessary treat the illusion as the reality all of the time! He is deeeefiniely not above pointing out that it's just a mask. But he will almost never do in a way that is like "you are a total faker and never show anyone your true self!" cuz he doesn't really care if you show anyone your true self and lying about your more core personality just seems natural. He thinks everyone should be allowed to be who they want to be, even if it's a lie.
Now if we are talking about SOUYA RETARDEDLY HAS BARELY BEEN EATING AND TIDE HAD TO CALL HIM ON IT AND SHOVE IT DOWN HIS THROAT THAT HE IS A MORON AND A HYPOCRITE IF HE KEEPS THIS UP.
Heeee was, at the time, genuinely upset. Tide doesn't have Sugata's emotional distance from basically everyone but Wako and Takuo, because Sugata found out everything sucked when he was eleven and sort of turned off in a lot of ways. Tide is oddly more optimistic, and subsequently more invested in the people around him. Furthermore, Tide really is not even a little bothered by the blood drinking thing, though he realizes he might be if he had to actually get it from other people regularly! But he himself doesn't care and so doesn't see why Souya cares because Tide has a kind of mental block that people might like him or not want to see him hurt.
But, he does care about Souya and like Souya and so Souya's bravado disappearing and finding out he has toooottally failed to take care of himself is annoying and upsetting! And DUMB because Souya is all OH I CAN TAKE STABBINGS FOR YOU IN A BAD GAME and as much as Tide really doesn't LIKE the idea of anyone defending him that way, he felt that Souya was determined enough that Tide probably couldn't stop him, so at the very least he would use him effectively. Now it's all lol I am not in top shape and I have a hard time holding it together when I am looking at an open wound so FUCK SOUYA AND HIS SELF SACRIFICES Tide doesn't want him if he can't take care of himself. BLAH.
So basically his feelings on that stupid are just, irritation caused out of concern cause out of Sugata's instinctual hyperproctiveness that he hasn't fully realized yet. He is generally UNIMPRESSED with the whole thing, but has also forgiven him since Souya said he would start drinking blood, and since Tide said what he had to say on the matter and now it is up to Souya be an adult.
WHAT ARE PRIDE'S THOUGHTS ON MAYBE GOING CRAZY.
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Date: 2011-02-18 04:18 am (UTC)UM. HE ISSS... on a superficial level he's very like OH GAWD WHAT THE FUCK because he can sort of. . . feel Break's mood and gawd Break's clothes and gawd that behaviour and why would you even!!!!!!!
On a deeper level there is a GIANT CHASM between his last memory and this one. He knows he's older. And . . . wonders . . . what the fuck. . . happened. . . What happened to the people he was SO DESPERATE to protect? The My Lady doesn't seem right to him, but there was also deep affection in the reference.
HE FEELS LIKE HE WAS SOMEONE ELSE and is kind of like oookaaayyyy well maybe that me is crazy but I guess I am not crazy maybe I am? And then the sort of odd buoy of humor that came along with the memory he was like wtfff okay I'll just ride it out.
HE KIND OF IS OKAY WITH THIS!!!!!! Except for the superficial stuff 8(
Tiiidddeee''ssss feelings on people remembering other people from pre-Aather
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Date: 2011-02-18 04:36 am (UTC)OTHERWISE he is fine with people having off team friends, encourages it, and is curious about who might know each other.
PRIDE'S FEELINGS/THOUGHTS/LOYALTIES RE: TIDE. GO.
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Date: 2011-02-18 04:50 am (UTC)I SUSPECT unless something changes greatly the positive feelings/obedience Break has towards Sugata will only increase rather than decrease.
that is all i have on loyalties/etc did you want a... gen..relationship response... too...?
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Date: 2011-02-18 02:37 am (UTC)OKAY Star Driver is a SHOUJO SCHOOL ROMANSU thing only it's also a little shounen and the romansu issss mostly about the development of a girl-with-two-boyfriends threesome! It is WAY MORE MILD than most anime, in the sense that while Sugata and Wako (the girl) have legitimate reasons to be upset, their upset is based around the fact that they are stuck living on a tiny island their whole lives. Wako can't leave because she is a miko anchored to giant robots called cybodies, which can only be used by people born with certain 'marks'. As a miko, her very existence keeps these cybodies locked down so they can't enter reality and be used as WMDs. Meanwhile, Sugata can't leave because he bear the mark of the Emperor cybody, which is so powerful anyone who tries to use it goes into a coma. And if he DOES surpass the coma clause, he gains a magic power that is basically a very small nuke so HE is never allowed to leave the island so he doesn't make HIMSELF into a WMD and if he tries his servants will murder him 8D;
However, there are a lot of robot battles, and the plot is basically Takuto (the redhead on Peridot) fighting many repetitive battles against the Glittering Crux, a kindasortavillainous group who wants to break the Maiden's seals so they can use the cybodies in reality in order to gain power and wealth! The ultimate thing s that Takuto is the GALACTIC PRETTY BOY and will fight the glittering crux, destroy ALL OF THE CYBODIES, and then Wako will be free to leave the island because there won't be anything to protect.
Anyway, no one dies, no one is srsly injured. So it's a much nicer thaaaan most anime. But it's very pretty, has a colorful cast of characters, particularly a lot of great females. It is kind of a harem anime in that Everyone Loves Takuto, but the main plot relationship is actually very much a threeway! Rather than "I have to choose between two boys".
WAS THAT HELPFUL? I CAN ANSWER MORE QUESTION. normally if I am asked to explain Star Driver I just go 'utena with gundams' 8|;;
WHAT DOES ACE THINK OF THIS PLACE SO FAR.
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Date: 2011-02-19 06:28 am (UTC)YOUR CHARACTERS' THOUGHTS ON THE ONES OF MINE THEY HAVE MET SO FARRRR
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Date: 2011-02-19 07:00 pm (UTC)Sugata likes Ginger! She is responsible and forward thinking and he can tell she is probably kind of bratty for soooome people to deal with, but it doesn't bother him and subsequently he isn't on the receiving end of any of it, so he has positive feelings. He would probably go to her for monster fighting issues, and in general he is impressed with Emerald's resourcefulness.
I KIND OF DERPED OUT ON THE THREAD WITH RIFUL but I will say that Sugata flat out didn't like her until he heard her explain her actions to Souya. She came off as very UP IN YOUR BUSINESS AND BEING AMUSED BY IT AND LOOKING FOR BUTTONS TO PUSH but when she explained her actions it was obvious she is just... socially defunct and was, in her way, being honest and thoughtful. He doesn't really care if people if DIFFERENT, so once he understood that she got an even playing field instead of a "Hm you seem to be being an asshole to my friend I guess I don't like you".
REVERSE?
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Date: 2011-02-19 10:02 pm (UTC)She feels a lot better about Sugata now that she's talked to him more! She was initially kind of leery and frustrated with his easy because it came off like he was tolerantly amused at her but he's shown he can use his head and that he's just ... kind of accepting of things as they happen and not completely unaffected, as it were, if that makes sense? Like, he's not just shrugging and moving on, he's clearly doing, based on their conversation in the teamspam post. It doesn't hit her
Ayanamitwitch buttons, so she can actually see who he is rather than that vague sense of passive contempt she read into his behavior earlier. She doesn't like him - he arrived a little too late (AFTER THE TRAUMA GAME) and a little too early (BEFORE MISATO ARRIVED ON HIS TEAM) to really breach her friend zone - so much as she respects him and will listen to him. The last memory she got was a bear, though, and has made her less trusting and more defensive around people in general, so we'll see if some of that fear that he's holding her in contempt resurfaces.AND IT'S FUNNY HE THINKS SHE WASN'T LOOKING FOR BUTTONS TO PUSH, because she ... kind of was but that's just how she is. She was also dead serious when she said she stepped out of the shadows to be fair to them, because ... that's how her mind works!
It's hard to say what she really thinks of anyone at this point except as factors to be interested in - for example, she's going along with her duties because in her memory she was okay with having duties and also because they're not terribly boring duties yet, but she doesn't really have a moral attachment to her job so she finds people like Acedia and Datura interesting in the way they clearly aren't being punished for outright ignoring/rejecting the premise Beauty fed her when she arrived; she was perfectly willing to accept what Beauty said at face value, but with that in mind she's decided "help" and "safe" are clearly up for interpretation, so hmmm - she doesn't really value other people's lives anyway, just whether their presence or absence is a requirement for her objectives, so in her mind, whether she's friends with people or not has never held any bearing on whether or not she'd kill them, for example, if it met her objectives. When the next trauma game comes along it's going to be fun, and by fun, I mean Riful will have no compunctions killing the other teams or her teammates, if that's what's required, because she just doesn't see life as having value that way. (... she won't even personally hold it against people if they kill her in a game - she might get payback for it later, but that's just proper retribution. Wouldn't want people thinking it was okay to kill you without consequence, and all that. She'd expect the same from others - she just expects not to lose.)
So she's not really interested in Sugata yet, exactly, because she doesn't really see him as an object of interest, but she does see him as a person with potential to be interesting. He's a certain type of person that Riful gets pinged for - his disinterest in the effect of what Souya did on his body, "it's just blood" and etc., is something that makes her curious about him, but without some of her memories it's kind of an unfocused interest - "oh, I'll have to keep an eye on what you do", that sort of thing.
She kind of thinks it's funny how people are people everywhere and try to keep things hidden - this is something Riful doesn't really understand except from a tactical/self-defense perspective, tbh, and even then it's only because it's tiresome sometimes to have to deal with people getting the wrong idea - because ... while she recognizes why what they're doing might be alarming (it was certainly surprising to come across in the middle of the night, anyway), she doesn't care and she doesn't see, if it's something they a) need to do and b) don't mind doing, why they are letting themselves care either. It's so much easier just to do what you need and want to do and let other people have to deal with it.
People's moral hangups - right now she accepts them and expects them, and without her memories isn't at the point of trying to have friendly "debates" with people who she thinks are letting themselves down by not recognizing their situation but she's definitely trolling a little and DELIBERATELY POKING AT THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE CUTE, but at the same time - it's a sign of low self-confidence to be worried about those things, so she's always like "you people think so little of yourselves, it's such a shame, I'd do something about it if I felt like trying", and with people like Sugata who she can obviously tell don't lack for self-confidence, the fact that he is deliberately acquiescing to this is simultaneously expected - because he's a hero and the Knights are his keepers, so the power dynamic there makes it the natural way of things whether it's fought or not - and interesting, because he clearly is in control of that situation by tolerating this weakness and hmm. Hmmm. She's not invested in poking at it but it's certainly interesting!
tl;dr her thoughts on Sugata are "I hope this goes somewhere wonderful!" and that is about it, because she doesn't really care about him that much.
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Date: 2011-02-19 10:06 pm (UTC)